Exploring Self
  The shift is not a thing. It is the action of increasing your self-awareness.

Bennett posts:

hey alex, im also big into music and i use it as a tool to understand myself. im an intermediate tumold that is aligned ilda, and my passion in life IS music. some intermediate musicians that ive come across(havent confirmed them with elias but they seem intermediate to me)

jim morrison

morrisey

bob dylan

aphex twin

george harrison

billy corgan from the smashing pumpkins

eric clapton

jimi hendrix

jimmy page of led zeppelin

neil young

norah jones

andre 3000 of outkast

syd barrett

i have alot more that i suspect are intermediates. they are becoming easier and easier to pick out from a group of commons/softs. of course all 3 orientations are not black and white, the edges are blurred perhaps non-existent, but i enjoy exploring sexuality and sexual orientations so maybe we can have some interesting conversations.

Bennett posts:

ps, i had never heard of the eels until i saw your post. i just checked pitchfork and right on the main page is a review for an eels album. synchy, guess i'll have to check them out now

derelic7 posts:

hello alex! cool to see another musician here! you have an excellent taste in guitars. i'm digging your energy. peace!
bennett: if your aphex twin impression is correct i'm officially changing orientation.

Lktpzyxm posts:

Don't know for sure, but I've long thought that Robert Fripp feels Milumet/Sumafi to me, and Carlos Santana feels both Tumold and Milumet. John McLaughlin pops into my head now as maybe Sumari/Milumet. Tumold guitarists, maybe Richard Thompson? Duane Allman? Ali Farke Toure?

Lktpzyxm posts:

Bennett wrote:

hey alex, im also big into music and i use it as a tool to understand myself. im an intermediate tumold that is aligned ilda, and my passion in life IS music. some intermediate musicians that ive come across(havent confirmed them with elias but they seem intermediate to me) jim morrison morrisey bob dylan aphex twin george harrison billy corgan from the smashing pumpkins eric clapton jimi hendrix jimmy page of led zeppelin neil young norah jones andre 3000 of outkast syd barrett i have alot more that i suspect are intermediates. they are becoming easier and easier to pick out from a group of commons/softs.

Interesting list, Bennett. Not that you do this, reminds me that my first tendency is to think that all my favorite musicians are intermediate. Of those I've listened to in yours, Morrison definitely feels soft to me, Corgan also I'd suspect is soft. Hendrix I don't feel clear about, but feels like he could be soft to me. The others in your list (haven't really listened to Morrisey or Jones or Andre 3000) pretty much feel intermediate to me too, altho for some reason I feel like Clapton and/or Dylan might be common. But who knows? Seems like I can only think of about a dozen musicians this morning, but a few others that feel intermediate to me: Joanna Newsom, PJ Harvey (also feels religiously-focused), Robert Fripp (might be common), Skip James, Otis Spann, Son House, Thelonious Monk, Charlie Parker, Keith Jarrett, Henry Kaiser.

Not according to Elias maybe, but I've definitely come to agree with you in some respects. Lately I've been thinking of the categories of orientation that Elias has given as an approximation, one model, and looked at a little more finely or differently one could have more categories of orientation. Until recently I'd generally thought of orientation as one's locus of perception along a continuum of outer to inner. From this perspective, common, soft, intermediate, yeah I can definitely see it. But lately I've been looking at it taking the view that anyone of any orientation can move their locus of perception to any point along this continuum, and their orientation is an aspect not of where they are but how they shape whatever they perceive from whatever point they're at, and their motion at that point. How they fit it together, and what shape and motion they make/take as they do. From this perspective, the three categories can still make some sense, but others begin to emerge for me that might fit better. Can't say more about it, just starting to explore it.

Edit: and one's positioning is not necessarily pointlike, nor is the continuum necessarily linear.

Stevelord posts:

So whatever happened to this modern day Alexander the great. They come, and they go. They come , and they go.

Steve

MirrorSelf posts:

ALEXANDER wrote:

Essence name: ALEXANDER Family Belonging: Tumold Family Aligning: Milumet Orientation: Intermediate Essence Animal: Bear, Focus Animal: Cat Number of focuses: 1852 Essence color: brown Focus color: bright red Famous Focuses: 12: Jules Verne, Aleister Crowley, Hermann Hesse, Louis de Funes, Alexander von Humboldt, Vitruv (confirmed by Elias) new impressiones: Leonardo da Vinci, Ian Curtis, Benjamin Franklin Present Focuses: 6

Yay! welcome, welcome, pretty man. Nice to meet Aleister Crowley. Always thought he was fascinating. I like your intent.

Stevelord posts:

BethanyBuffington wrote:

ALEXANDER wrote: Essence name: ALEXANDER Family Belonging: Tumold Family Aligning: Milumet Orientation: Intermediate Essence Animal: Bear, Focus Animal: Cat Number of focuses: 1852 Essence color: brown Focus color: bright red Famous Focuses: 12: Jules Verne, Aleister Crowley, Hermann Hesse, Louis de Funes, Alexander von Humboldt, Vitruv (confirmed by Elias) new impressiones: Leonardo da Vinci, Ian Curtis, … (quote shortened by clean-bot) Yay! welcome, welcome, pretty man. Nice to meet Aleister Crowley. Always thought he was fascinating. I like your intent.

Yeah right, Bethany, you admire Alexnders INTENT. LOL. BUt your too late with your shameless flirtation. Alexander is long , long gone. Tis a pity. Im sure he is the only Austrian we will ever see here. .

Steve